Saturday, February 7, 2009

Government and Bail Out.



  1. There is no Santa
  2. What are they buying?
  3. Republicans as Democrats
  4. The ‘Stimulus’ package — all economists agree?
  5. Like Europe
  6. List of waste in the stimulus bill...
  7. "Anxious over the ballooning size of the proposed economic stimulus package, now at more than $900 billion, lawmakers in both parties are working on a last-minute plan to strip tens of billions of dollars from the bill.... Stimulus Talks Set to Continue After Centrists Push Cuts
  8. 'In 1801, Jefferson in his address said that "the sum of good government" is not very much -- to be "wise and frugal," to "restrain men from injuring one another," to "leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits" and to "not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned." ' Summoning the U.S. Up from Childishness
  9. "Now, there are some who question the scale of our ambitions - who suggest that our system cannot tolerate too many big plans. Their memories are short. For they have forgotten what this country has already done; what free men and women can achieve when imagination is joined to common purpose, and necessity to courage.What the cynics fail to understand is that the ground has shifted beneath them - that the stale political arguments that have consumed us for so long no longer apply. The question we ask today is not whether our government is too big or too small, but whether it works - whether it helps families find jobs at a decent wage, care they can afford, a retirement that is dignified. Where the answer is yes, we intend to move forward. Where the answer is no, programs will end. " RAW DATA: President Barack Obama's Inaugural Address
    How appaling that the President is telling us to not worry about cost. - John Coffey

Thursday, February 5, 2009

Bill Gates releases Mosquitoes.

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From: Wendel, David J  
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:49 PM
To: Trout, Larry R ; Coffey, John R ; Marticorena, Fernando R 
Subject: what are you're thoughts on this?
Coach Fired for 100-0 victory.

David Wendel
-----Original Message-----
From:  Coffey, John R   
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:57 PM
To: Wendel, David J ; Trout, Larry R ; Marticorena, Fernando R 
Cc: 'john2001plus
Subject: RE: what are you're thoughts on this?

In a competitive sport, like chess, you always try to play your best no matter what.   Your opponent paid money to play in a tournament against tough players, so going easy on him would shortchange him.   He will learn the most by having the best moves made against him.
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From: Trout, Larry R  
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 8:05 AM
To: Coffey, John R 
Cc: Wendel, David J 
Subject: RE: what are you're thoughts on this?

Firing should be out of the question.

I believe a coach should have the option in any sport to put in their back benchers when its obvious they are going to win by a big margin.   This has the added benefit of giving experience/playing time to your secondary players.

In this instance, the opposing team was from a school with learning disabilities.   The coach and team probably should have gone easier on them, but that should be their personal judgment call, and no one should be penalized.
-----Original Message-----
From: Trout, Larry R  
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:36 AM
To: Updike, L Robert ; Wendel, David J ; Coffey, John
R ; Marticorena, Fernando R ; Hebden, Daniel R 
CSW-SLC; Roesner, Michael A ; Spiegel, Jeff N 
Subject: Bill Gates

Anyone for an ethical discussion of this...

"Bill Gates releases mosquitoes into audience.   Microsoft chairman makes demonstration during discussion on malaria"
-----Original Message-----
From: Wendel, David J  
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 9:16 AM
To: Trout, Larry R ; Updike, L Robert ; Coffey, John R ; Marticorena, Fernando R ; Hebden, Daniel R ; Roesner, Michael A ; Spiegel, Jeff N 
Subject: RE: Bill Gates

If there were more than 100 more mosquitoes than people, i.e. the mosquito "score" was more than 100 more than the people, then he should be fired.

David Wendel
-----Original Message-----
From: Coffey, John R  
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 9:28 AM
To: Wendel, David J ; Trout, Larry R ; Updike, L Robert ; Marticorena, Fernando R ; Hebden, Daniel R ; Roesner, Michael A ; Spiegel, Jeff N 
Cc: 'john2001plus
Subject: RE: Bill Gates

Conservatives have charged that the ban on DDT has cost lives in Africa.   I am not sure what the harmful effects of DDT are, although I think that it primarily had to do with weakening bird egg shells, but it would seem to me to warrant cost/benefit analysis.
-----Original Message-----
From: Marticorena, Fernando R  
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 9:34 AM
To: Coffey, John R ; Wendel, David J ; Trout, Larry R ; Updike, L Robert ; Hebden, Daniel R ; Roesner, Michael A ; Spiegel, Jeff N 
Cc: 'john2001plus
Subject: RE: Bill Gates

As far as I'm concern I think Bill belongs in a nut house.   Who in their right mind would release a potential disease that we have no cure for.   Who can warranty that this mosquitoes weren't infected?
-----Original Message-----
From: Coffey, John R  
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 9:44 AM
To: Marticorena, Fernando R ; Wendel, David J ; Trout,
Larry R ; Updike, L Robert ; Hebden, Daniel R 
CSW-SLC; Roesner, Michael A ; Spiegel, Jeff N 
Cc: 'john2001plus
Subject: RE: Bill Gates

The only way he could have released 100 mosquitoes is if he bought them at some place that raises mosquitoes.   Who does this kind of work and why, I don't know.   I assume that it is for research.   When I was a biology student, for anatomy class we used to buy dead cats from a supply house, and other animals as well.   The cats all looked exactly alike.   So I think that mosquitoes bred in captivity would be pretty safe. Hey, if I had been Bill Gates, I would have just told people that I was releasing mosquitoes and not really do it.   Then I would watch everyone squirm.
-----Original Message-----
From: Trout, Larry R  
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 9:53 AM
To: Coffey, John R 
Subject: RE: Bill Gates

The also could easily have been captured in the wild.   I believe this is already done to check local populations for West nile virus.   In provo, quite a few of my neighbors would volunteer to help with Utah counties mosquito abatement programs.